Thursday, March 22, 2007

My Own Theory of Stuttering

I don't know about other stutterers but when I forget about my stutter, I don't stutter. So it's got me wondering:

What if a person's attempts to not stutter are sufficient enough to interrupt the flow of speech?

Speaking is a very complex process. As I understand it, if one muscle or neuron takes a fraction of a second longer than it should, the flow of speech is thrown off. In addition, talking is supposed to be an automatic process—think a thought, decide to share it, open mouth, let words just flow out.

So it would seem to me that inserting the thoughts "will I stutter? won't I stutter?" or even thinking about how the words come out or how to form them, essentially inserts a step that shouldn't be there and could also interrupt the flow of speech.

My guess is that whatever caused a person to stutter in the first place in most, perhaps not all, cases corrects itself, but whatever coping mechanisms the person has come up with to try not to stutter interrupt the flow of speech and cause the disfluencies to continue even after the initial "problem" is gone.

This could explain . . .

. . . how some older stutterers manage to find a way to stop stuttering or at least stop stuttering noticeably. Whatever treatment, technique, or other action they decided to take gave them the confidence to turn talking back into an automatic process. And without the need for their coping mechanisms, only the "thing" that caused them to stutter in the first place is left, which might have since corrected itself. The result? Fluent, or very near fluent speech.

. . . why stutterers sometimes experience smooth speech during times of extreme non-speech-related stress or strong emotions. Their minds are so preoccupied with more troubling things, that they don't have the time or energy to use their coping mechanisms. And talking is turned back into an automatic process again.

. . . why stuttering is so situational. The brain has decided when it needs to use coping mechanisms and when it doesn't. If a stutterer thinks he's alone in a room, the brain doesn't feel the need to use any coping mechanisms—so talking is automatic and speech is perhaps fluent—but the minute someone walks into the room, the brain sees the need for coping mechanisms, sets them into motion, and the speech pattern is interrupted.

. . . why different people stutter in different situations. Each person's brain has chosen its own set of situations when coping mechanisms are needed. For example, most people don't feel the need for coping mechanisms when alone or talking to pets, but some people do.

. . . why stutterers often speak more smoothly if they change their voice or put on an accent. The brain views the new voice or accent as a new situation and doesn't see the need for any coping mechanisms—yet anyway.

. . . why stuttering situations change over time. The brain doesn't see the need for any coping mechanisms in a certain situation, but then something happens to change that conclusion. Then after that, whenever that situation arises, the coping mechanisms are set into motion and disfluency results. And vice versa.

. . . why it's so, so, so difficult to stop stuttering, even if the initial "problem" may have already gone. A stutterer essentially has to make something that's already conscious, unconscious. It's extremely difficult to not think of something when you're already thinking about it.

As for what that "thing" is that causes a person to stutter in the first place, my non-scientific-wild-ass guess is that it's either a neurological flaw from a brain-related injury (like my giving myself a concussion at the age of five) or normal childhood disfluencies that simply haven't gone away yet (previous posts on this: "What Causes Stuttering?" and "What if Stuttering Were Actually Normal Childhood Disfluency?").

We all develop at different rates, and I think it's a mistake to think that everyone's speech muscles, neurons, etc. should all develop fully and "catch up" during the preschool years. For some, it might take until the school years, the teen years, or adulthood for everything to catch up.

So I'm guessing the cure for stuttering itself is: Time.

But therapy plays a vitally important role, too: To help a stutterer keep the act of talking an automatic process and remove any conscious elements, or coping mechanisms, the stutterer might have developed. This way whenever the neurological flaw corrects itself or all the speech parts "catch up" there's nothing standing in the way of smooth speech.

And it might take the same techniques speech-language pathologists are already using in therapy (fluency shaping, stuttering modification, voluntary stuttering, etc.) to give a stutterer enough confidence to talk without using their beloved coping mechanisms, but I think turning speech back into an automatic process should be the goal, rather than outward fluency.

But this is all just a guess based on my own experiences as a stutterer and reading and hearing about others' experiences.

It fits my stutter, though. Why else can I talk smoothly when I forget about it?

So I'm determined now to rid myself of my many coping mechanisms (scanning ahead, plotting ways to talk smoothly, switching words, and so on) and to make speaking spontaneous again. I'm essentially going to forget about my stutter, not just avoid it but forget it.

The first step, I think, is to pay as little attention as possible to any stutters that do come out. I'll try it for a few weeks and then report back on how it went.

42 Comments:

Anonymous Bill said...

A very interesting post. I have had trouble with my speech for the last couple of weeks after struggling to introduce myself on a traning course at work. I think ever since the course I have been overanalysing my speech and this has resulted in too much hesitation.

I do find that when I am very busy at work that I stutter a lot less because I am so focused on getting the job done. My speech is very frustrating because during periods like this I hardly stutter at all and I even wonder why I ever stutter...but it always seems to come back to haunt me. At least at the moment I tend to have 4 or 5 good weeks followed by 1 bad week. Feels like I am winning but wouldnt it be nice if it went away for good?

Bill

4:16 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Bill,

I can completely relate to your experiences.

I guess it's better to have 4 or 5 good weeks and 1 bad week than to have 1 good week and 4 or 5 bad weeks. But yes, it would be nice if it went away for good.

Congratulations on introducing yourself on the training course. That's my biggest nightmare.

Hang in there. It'll be the good weeks' turn soon. *:o)

Thank you for posting!

Sophie

4:44 PM  
Blogger Law Student said...

Interesting post! I made an entry in the not-so-distant past about a theory I got from a post from another...that, if we suddenly had amnesia...would our stutter go away? This was sparked by the proposition that perhaps stuttering becomes merely a habit...after childhood.

I am not concluding that this is true, understand; rather, I am simply wondering if it might have some truth to it.

Over the years, through persistent stuttering difficulties, we develop sort of a mindset of stuttering. We anticipate our stutter...we develop emotional reactions to speaking situations that automatically rear their ugly heads as soon as we approach speaking. So I am convinced that there are habitual aspects to our stuttering.

If we could "unlearn" some of those emotional reactions (a difficult challenge, I agree)...then perhaps we would be more fluent than we are.

Just an idea. :)

11:58 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

I'm guessing amnesia would make at least some of our stutter go away, perhaps all of it if whatever caused it in the first place has corrected itself.

I'm not sure I'd want to go through the process of re-learning everything else, though. *:o)

I agree --- if only we could erase the anticipation and the emotional reactions. . . .

The brain's a funny thing. Give it some facts or details (names, phone numbers, etc.) to remember and it has no problem forgetting them, even important ones.

But give it anticipation over how smoothly our words might come out and it seems determined to never forget that --- even when we tell it to.

Thank you for the insight.

Sophie

5:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Really interesting post. I came across your site via the Stuttering Brain blog. I'm glad I did. I am the mother of a four-year-old boy who stutters severely. I'm trying to use the internet to utilize the resources of information about stuttering but, as I'm sure you are well aware, there is quite a bit of rubbish to sort through. Once in a while, a parent will come across an informative and interesting website like yours. It also gives me hope when I read about someone who stutters and who has great career success. Often I find myself worrying about my son and whether or not he'll be able to to communicate at a big job but then I remember all those famous people and CEOs and other people who have managed to achieve really great success. One of the latest I've read is a newspaper article about a Movie Screenwriter Rob Bloom who battled stuttering and now writes comedy films. Interesting read if you want to learn more: http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=18142803&BRD=1597&PAG=461&dept_id=188818&rfi=6.

Anyway, sorry for the long post. I just wanted to say, from a parent's perspective, your site is helpful in bridging the understanding gap.

Thank you.

Shelia Price

11:05 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Shelia,

Thank you for your kind words and for the link. I apologize for taking so long to respond.

Please don't worry about whether your son's stutter will prevent him from pursuing the career of his choice. I would bet there are stutterers in practically every profession --- lawyers, doctors, actors, scientists, accountants, CEOs, etc., etc., etc.

As you've probably already discovered, good communication does not require smooth speech. I know of at least one stutterer (who stutters noticeably) who has made it to the highest rank in Toastmasters. Personally, I think of smooth speech as pretty speech -- nice, but not necessary.

The aspects of stuttering that can get in the way of good communication, though, are all the tricks and avoidance tactics that many stutterers use in an effort not to stutter. So I think the best gift you can give your son (which I'm guessing you're already giving him) is the courage, confidence, and freedom to say what he wants to say regardless of how it comes out.

I hope this helps, and thank you again.

Sophie

7:12 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Woops. Hit "publish" too quickly.

Just to clarify, my reference to "tricks and avoidance tactics" above is not meant to include techniques learned during therapy with a certified SLP who is knowledgeable about stuttering. Those techniques often do improve communication.

I do think the goal should be communication and saying what you want to say, though, rather than just outward fluency.

For what it's worth,
Sophie

7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

interesting and true post! i´ve suffered it for all of my life and i used to be very insecure and never saw they way to improve it. iT WAS ALSO VERY HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT IT, and it is still is. I have analyed myself the past few months and actually notice that what we need is self-confidence and feeling relaxed. And i agree with you that if we don´t think in stuttering or how to pronounce the word, we would be completly fluent. what now i do to improve my speech is feeling very confident of myself and forcing myself to speak becaue the worst thing that we can do is not speaking and not beleiving in us.
if anybody wants to contact me i would be glad to listen to more testimonies.. my email is salemmutiara@hotmail.com

9:18 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Thank you for writing.

It sounds like you have a good handle on your speech.

I agree that self-confidence and feeling relaxed can help. What I find difficult, though, is feeling self-confident and relaxed when I think I might stutter. Ugh.

Thank you again!

Sophie

9:46 PM  
Blogger PM said...

Hi Sophie

Not for publishing, please!

I thought to let you know that I started a blog
http://stammeringmind.blogspot.com/

I don't stammer, but am interested in modelling behaviour and stammering. A close family member stammers.

I am known to Scottish stammering groups and occasionally work with PWS, as folk who stammer describe themselves around here.

I wanted to tell you because I find your posts open minded and I sense you are skilled at introspection but not introversion.

I would be interested in your comments on my blogs.

Keep your site up, it is one of the better ones.

Peter

4:21 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Peter,

I'm afraid your comment was published automatically. *:o(

I don't moderate the comments posted here, so I couldn't catch it. I wouldn't worry too much, though. It's an old post so the likelihood that someone will read it at this point is pretty slim.

Thank you for your kind words. I'm touched. And I think it's wonderful you're researching stuttering (stammering) because of a family member.

I will take a look at your blog. I will also at some point update my blog, although with my son off for summer vacation (two months'worth) it might have to wait a bit.

Thank you again!

Best wishes,
Sophie

7:10 PM  
Blogger Nel20906 said...

Very good theories. I've been stuttering since the age of 5, and now at the age of 25 my levels of stuttering have changed dramatically. I have my good days (which doesn't mean fluency) and i have my bad days (which means, good luck trying to get a word out of me).

I think what gets to me is that I don't understand why I stutter? I'm not afraid of the people that i talk to but yet i can't help it.

The best conversations that i have are with myself, so perfect, so fluent.

Well keep on writing, i'm glad i found your blog.

-Nelson

12:08 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Dear Nelson,

My best conversations are with myself, too.

And I know what you mean about stuttering even when I'm with people I know well and feel comfortable with.

I, too, don't fully understand why I can't just will myself to stop stuttering. I'm starting to realize, though, that perhaps I should stop worrying about what makes me stutter and just focus on what I'm going to do with my stutter now that I have it.

Thank you for writing.

Sophie

8:01 PM  
Blogger Nel20906 said...

What gets me sometimes is when people that don't really know about stuttering give me advice.

Like... "think before each word" or "slow down", or "dont be afraid". I've been stuttering for 20 years of my life and you think I haven't tried everything possible. For some reason i think the key to a so called cure is in our minds, or at least in mine. I don't stutter when i'm alone but as soon as someone else is with me in a room then the stuttering begins.

I was playing this video game on playstation and in the game you have to give voice commands. I didnt stutter but i felt the stutter building up. It was weird because no one else was with me. So maybe my cure is psychological.

Stuttering sucks, Can i say that? I've lost a lot by it but i believe i've gained alot too. I hope I can become Fire Chief one day but i have a big challange ahead of me before that happens.

never losing all hope,

Nelson

10:34 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Dear Nelson,

I think almost every stutterer has received those tidbits of "advice" at one time or another.

People are just trying to share what's worked for them when they stumble over words. I guess they don't realize that for stutterers it's not that simple. But I agree it can be frustrating.

For what it's worth, I believe my stutter is almost all psychological, too. On the rare occasion when I forget about it, it mysteriously vanishes.

I'm sure whatever caused me to stutter in the first place was physical / neurological, but whatever has caused the stuttering to continue this long is mostly, if not all, psychological.

Feel free to say whatever you like, as long as you never give up your dream of being Fire Chief and you continue to never lose hope.

Sure, one of the requirements for the position of Fire Chief (and many other positions) might be good communication skills. But communication is different from smooth speech. You can communicate perfectly well --- even with a stutter.

You can do it.

Best wishes,
Sophie

12:42 PM  
Blogger Nel20906 said...

Thanks for the insight. I have far to go for chief so hopefully I will improve sooner or later.

What profession are you in?

9:28 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Dear Nelson,

You'll get there.

Your stutter might not need to "improve" quite as much as you think it needs to, though.

Have you ever been to a stuttering conference (the National Stuttering Association's, for example) or similar gathering?

There are many stutterers out there in jobs that require "good communication skills," and they stutter noticeably.

I must admit I don't know exactly what it takes to be Fire Chief, but please don't buy into the idea that good communication requires smooth speech. It requires getting your point across effectively. I'm finally coming to realize that people *can* see past the bumps.

As for my profession, I currently stay home to take care of my four-year-old son. Before that, though, I was a legal editor. Before that, I was a lawyer. And before that, I was an environmental auditor. Every one of those job descriptions included "good communication skills."

You can do it.

Sophie

3:18 PM  
Blogger Nel20906 said...

I've heard of stuttering conferences but i've never been to one. I picture it being a place where everyone stutters, I don't know what my reaction would be. I'm not ashamed of my speech but i've never been in a room with many people like me.

Well I just became a fire fighter so i have a long way to go to become fire chief. It's been a bit challanging, i think i'm the only fire fighter that stutters like i do. I feel pretty accepted though but i know i would be better at my job if i could communicate fluently.

I always wanted to be a lawyer but my fear has stopped me from doing many things; growing up I always limited myself from many things, to prevent others from finding out my secret (stuttering). I know that my impediment has helped me become more "human", does that make sense?

Okay I'm rambling on now... I remember growing up my mom used to tell me the story of Moses, I guess she always wanted to give me hope or try to cheer me up. You have heard the story of Moses right?

-Nelson

8:36 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Dear Nelson,

I think everyone feels your apprehension about stuttering conferences before they attend one.

As I'm sure you've heard, the best part about conferences is they're the one place in the world where stuttering is completely accepted and understood by everyone there.

When the time's right perhaps you'll try one. *:o)

Everything you've written makes perfect sense, and yes, I have heard the story of Moses.

Good luck with your goal of Fire Chief. And remember, it's never too late to pursue any of things you previously feared.

Best wishes,
Sophie

3:43 PM  
Anonymous Paul said...

Hi everyone.

I'm 26 years old and a severe stutterer and I just want to tell a few of my own theories based on my personal experiences.


I do stutter heavily when:

- I do try to open up a conversation (ask question, do a favor, buying something) with someone that I don't know that well and sometimes to people that I do know that well.
- Whenever I am caught offguard. Say a professor called me to recite or a stranger asked me for some direction.
- I lose my train of thought and try to search for the next word to say.
- I also stutter heavily when not completing enough sleep and I talk heavily the next day
- Generally, I do stutter when I talk to people normally


The moments that I don't stutter that much (but a few stutters can happen)

- When I'm under influenced. Beer and alcohol removes the tension.
- Usually when I do a monologue on my webcam just to observe myself speaking.
- I use a goofy foreign accent to talk to people.
- Sing and/or recite something with musical accompaniment.


My case of stuttering is maybe a combination of mental and physical malfunctions. Maybe unconsciously, I do fear the reactions of the people that do listen to me and do feel the anxiety because of my fear (and certain chemicals make me relax such as alcohol). I also think that unconsciously there are memories that disrupt the flow of clear thought and make me stutter. Physically, maybe there are malfunctioning neurons or nerves that are suppose to facilitate fluency in normal speech (say neurons/nerves that are in charge of natural rhythm) and the extra conscious effort of putting a foreign accent sort of patch the flaws of those neurons/nerves.

So that's my 2 cents.

2:40 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Paul,

Thank you for sharing your experiences.

For what it's worth, I believe my stutter has physical and psychological/mental components too. It seems to me that the physical aspect is the true stutter (the way I am), and the psychological/mental component developed as I tried to deal with the physical stutter.

Unfortunately, for me anyway, I believe that my psychological/mental component often increases the outward severity of my stutter.

Thank you again for writing.

Sophie

11:34 AM  
Blogger pawan said...

Hi All,

Nice to read the blogs here ... I have been a stutterer for about 9 years ( as far as I can remember ).

Long back then, my stutterring was very severe. I used to stutter when teachers asked me to give a speech on some topic, when I had to handle difficult conversations with my manager.

Even now I stutter but there has been significant improvement ( though a lot to go ) ..

I would say its all SELF-CONFIDENCE, SELF-ESTEEM AND NOT-CARING-ABOUT-OTHERS ATTITUDE that mattered in my case ...

And believe me stuttering is more of a physchological phenomena ... This brain has learned lot of bad practices of speech ( like recalling words that created problems while speaking in past at the time of stuttering , getting charged when something unexpected happens or in case of anxiety )...

So being over-consious won't help and certainly thinking that it has been 20 years and I-HAVE-TRIED-EVERYTHING attitude would do no good either.

The over-said advice like "speaking slow" and "thinking before speaking" they are effective given that the person keeps on trying it even when it doesn't seem to help.

Remember here we have to learn and unlearn .. so it will definitely take time .. but what it requires is PATIENCE, PERSERVERANCE AND BEING-HAPPY ...

Cheers,
Pawan

11:50 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Pawan,

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and advice.

I like your attitude.

Best wishes,
Sophie

1:08 PM  
Anonymous debapriyo said...

Thanks for such a nice post...I realise that the solution of this is mind control...need to control the emotions,to stay calm,relaxed,confident.....i am 22 years old and stammering has destroyed my self belief,confidence...and i am suffering from depression...this thing has affected everything in my life....

2:05 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Debapriyo,

You're welcome.

My stutter affected practically everything in my life too, so you're not alone.

I've found that mind control does help, but it's not easy, and when I'm in a difficult or stressful situation, I've found my mind is very quick to pull up my old ways of thinking. The most important thing is to not get upset when that happens. I try to simply accept that it did, tell myself it's not the end of the world, and move on.

Stuttering is like a big bully. If you ignore it and don't let it bother you, it'll be less likely to make your life miserable.

Just remember we can have bumpy speech and still be wonderful people. The two are completely independent of each other.

Thank you for writing, and be proud of who you are. *:o)

Best wishes,
Sophie

7:29 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Oops. I now see you were referring to Pawan's post. Thank you, Pawan.

Sophie

7:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that this blog is nearly two years old, but I have to say how dead on it seems and how much its truth resonated with me. I'm a 17 year old who has a mild stutter and only really causes a problem for me when I'm reading out loud, talking on the telephone, or introducing myself. Other than those times, I am almost completely fluent-so this theory of habit and anticipation makes total sense to me--thank you for giving me another perspective on stuttering as I work to make it a non-issue in my life.

12:02 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

You're very welcome. I'm pleased you found it helpful.

Thank you for writing, and best wishes for making your stutter a non-issue. *:o)

Sophie

1:17 PM  
Blogger Sandeep said...

Guys, give me your views on "what exactly does your stutter mean to you", I know it my sound stupid.. but wanna see your responses

1:11 PM  
Blogger j said...

Hello,

I'm a closet stutterer myself. When I'm excited and want to talk freely its the most difficult, all of a sudden I feel like I'm out of air or like being choked and I get blocked and silence occurs.

In this silence I can still think though, so I think oh no!! I'm stuck, I'll choose another word that will perhaps come out, anything to avoid that dreaded silence of being choked on a word. That silence feels like an eternity as I feel I'm getting choked from speaking a certain word, I feel shame and embarassment.

If the feelings are very bad I'll get sad and just give up and let the other person talk and act as listener.

Just my experience, I have no idea why or how to relieve it.

Jason

10:01 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Jason,

Thank you for sharing this. I'm in the same boat as you.

I wish I had an easy answer on how to relieve it. I've found forgiving myself helps. And after forcing myself to just stumble through words in front of people I've realized that the only person who really cares how I talk is me.

It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed for getting stuck on a word, but really there's no need.

Be kind to yourself. Thank you again!

Best wishes,
Sophie

3:11 PM  
Blogger j said...

Hey Sophie,

I'm glad you understand.

It's hard to forgive yourself when you have so much hate in yourself.

Best of luck.

My gift to myself is another adventuress trip to South east Asia.

Toodles

Jason

8:14 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Hi Jason,

I so understand about all the hatred.

I've talked to friends about my speech, though, and I've been surprised to find that they really aren't as repulsed by it as I am. So I figure if they can tolerate the oddities of my speech, perhaps I can too.

Have a wonderful time in Southeast Asia. That is a fantastic gift.

Best wishes,
Sophie

3:00 PM  
Blogger j said...

Hey Sophie,

Thanks for your good wishes and best of luck to you on your journey to self understanding.

Jason

8:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who knows where to download XRumer 5.0 Palladium?
Help, please. All recommend this program to effectively advertise on the Internet, this is the best program!

12:21 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Just in case anyone was wondering, the above comment is spam, and the program mentioned posts even more spam.

Not really the kind of repetition this blog is about, though. *;o)

Sophie

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Techie Edd said...

Hi, I stutter a lot.. Recently I just got an interview and I can't even say my own Phone Number especially the last number which is the number 3. After the interview, I got into the phone and tests continue. The Phone asked me to state my name and it took me over 3 minutes to say my full name and spell it. I say and spell it very very slowly which I think it took about a minutes to finish. Then there was the "follow how I speak test". Damn that was hard, especially for a stutterer like me. If I think of the words, I find myself in silence, total silence in minutes. It's like I can't breathe while trying to let the words out. My breathing totally stopped and my mind is totally blown away. I hate this stuff. This has caused me from low college grades to failing grades to missed job opportunities. If only I could reversed the situation, I could have been a manager by now or even more. I'm actually a very talented guy, who spends his time on the internet since he can't speak clearly to people. I usually develop websites and warcraft 3 maps.. These hobbies usually relieves my tension of speaking since all I do is code and script and chat with my friends / co-developers.

Thank you for listening to my misfortune...

10:04 AM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

Dear Techie Edd,

I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time. The phone poses problems for me, too.

I wish there were an easy solution. Perhaps find someone you trust whom you could practice "interviewing" with so you might feel more comfortable during the real job interviews.

Also, speaking with other people who stutter, either in person or on the Internet, has helped me become more comfortable with the bumps in my speech. And the more comfortable we are with the way we talk, the easier communication becomes. If you haven't done so already, you might try visiting one of the online self-help groups or looking for a local stuttering association.

I don't know if this helps. I do think it's wonderful you've found a hobby that provides some relief from your speaking struggles. And, if nothing else, please know you're not alone.

All the best,
Sophie

12:57 PM  
Anonymous Full latest pc games links said...

happy new year.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and advice.

I like your attitude.

Best wishes,
my blog usagamezone.blogspot.com

1:40 PM  
Blogger Closet Stutterer said...

You're welcome. I'm glad you liked them.

Best wishes for the New Year!

Sophie

5:43 PM  
Anonymous reborndolls said...

i like this blog..!?

1:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tEACHER IN TRAINING....I stutter (mild) any advice?

jgreer1968@gmail.com

10:15 AM  

Post a Comment

Links to this post:

Create a Link

<< Home